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=First-time Visitors=
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What's this all about? -- There was a "discussion":http://intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/2004-October/001912.html on the "FreeGIS":http://www.freegis.org "mailing list":http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list about people wanting to collaborate to write a book. One thing led to another and a group of people decided to start here. If you would like to join in, please do so! Sign up for the "FreeGISBook mailing list":http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/freegisbook and make yourself an "account":http://www.eogeo.org/join_form here on "EOGEO.org.":http://www.eogeo.org Then you can discuss things and contribute material to this site.
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=General Info=
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Mailing list -- http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/freegisbook
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Archives -- http://lists.eogeo.org/pipermail/freegisbook/
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Project page -- http://freegisbook.eogeo.org/ (Redirects to http://www.eogeo.org/Projects/projects_wiki/FreeGISBook/)
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"IRC":http://www.eogeo.org/Projects/projects_wiki/HowToIRC -- Visit the "EOGEO channel":irc://irc.freenode.net#eogeo on irc.freenode.net
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FreeGISBookLicense -- Discussion about licenses for the book. We need to pick one. For now assume that this falls under the Creative Commons "Attribution - Share Alike license.":http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ (Note it's the new 2.0 version)
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AuthorMeetings -- Places where authors might meet. E.g. OGC meetings, MUM3/OSGIS/EOGEO...
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[FreeGISRelationship] -- The relationship to "FreeGIS.org":http://www.freegIS.org
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Draft I
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* FreeGISBookOverview
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* FreeGISBookOutline
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* FreeGISBookInteroperability
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* FreeGISBookAudience
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* FreeGISBookSkillAdvancement
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* FreeGISBookFragments - Stuff that's too good to lose but not really ready for the book
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Other efforts & info to be aware of
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* "GSDI Cookbook":http://www.gsdi.org/gsdicookbookindex.asp
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* "SDI Africa: An implementation guide":http://geoinfo.uneca.org/sdiafrica/
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* "Mapping Hacks":http://oreilly.com/catalog/mappinghks - a new O'Reilly Media book covering lots of neat geospatial tools, hints and tricks.  Includes mostly open source tools.
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* "The GIS Book,":http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0766828204/104-2302765-4397524?v=glance Korte, George, !OnWord Press (Acquired Titles), 5th edition (August 30, 2000). Based on the description, it also deals with Free GIS (but it could be of the freeware kind...)
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* M. Neteler and H. Mitasova, 2004, "Open Source GIS: A GRASS GIS Approach":http://mpa.itc.it/grassbook2/ . Second Edition. The Kluwer international series in Engineering and Computer Science (SECS): Volume 773. Kluwer Academic Publishers, Boston, Dordrecht, London, ISBN: 1-4020-8064-6. 2nd Edition August 2004, 424 pages
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* "Web Mapping Illustrated":http://oreilly.com/catalog/webmapping - another new O'Reilly book covering open source geospatial applications.
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* "How to create a color raster from LandSat 7 imagery":http://www.itopen.it/2005/09/12/how-to-create-a-color-raster-from-landsat-7-imagery/
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Comments
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Note that the comments below can be factored into the material as we go. Comments are basically formatted text that sits at the bottom of any page.
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From kenzky Fri Nov 5 16:37:22 -0500 2004
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From: kenzky
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:37:22 -0500
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Subject: FreeGISList
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Message-ID: <20041105163722-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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Moved bulky list of packages from this comment to FreeGISBookMajorPackages. -kenzky Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:30:22 -0500
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From adoyle Fri Nov 5 17:42:26 -0500 2004
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From: adoyle
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:42:26 -0500
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Subject: Need an outline
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Message-ID: <20041105174226-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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I think it would be good to construct a book outline. Obviously there would be a section with info about each of the major packages. I would also like to see an overview that ties things together. Also an interoperability chapter (or section) and some discussion on how to get various packages to interoperate.
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From ajolma Sat Nov 6 05:56:24 -0500 2004
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From: ajolma
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 05:56:24 -0500
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Subject: Need an outline
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Message-ID: <20041106055624-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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In-Reply-To: <20041105174226-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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We need to define who is the target reader(s): analysts, casual users, programmers? My suggestions for the outline: spatial data and data formats, real-world application examples, scripting. I think interoperation is (potentially) a very strong advantage of FS, so I suggest more rather than less discussion on that topic.
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From mickwilson Sat Nov 6 19:44:26 -0500 2004
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From: mickwilson
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:44:26 -0500
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Subject: Okay, good....
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Message-ID: <20041106194426-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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I live and work in Africa... have done so for too many years now. Two weeks ago the UN in Nairobi hosted the conference of the African Association for Remote Sensing of the Environment.Once again, as so many times in the past, the plea was for 'more hardware', 'more money for licenses' and 'more money for training'.
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I suspect that many of these pleas are fallacious, or based on ignorance. I believe that EO-GEO and the OSS movement can cut through much of this bamboo and enable donor funds to be better focussed on the development of human skills.
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Interested in making this book a stepping-stone in that direction?
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From jmacgill Mon Nov 8 16:07:58 -0500 2004
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From: jmacgill
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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:07:58 -0500
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Subject: Need an outline
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Message-ID: <20041108160758-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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In-Reply-To: <20041106055624-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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Would it in fact be an idea to structure the book around introprability standards, i.e. a chapter per standard (rahter than a single interopability chapter).  With a discusion of the applicable tools.
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perhaps we even present this as a 'the right way to do things is to use Open Standards' and follow up with 'and by the way, you can do all of this with Open Source tools'
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From adoyle Mon Nov 8 16:37:44 -0500 2004
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From: adoyle
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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:37:44 -0500
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Subject: Need an outline
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Message-ID: <20041108163744-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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In-Reply-To: <20041108160758-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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Yes, I like this idea. I'd like to foster an SDI (c.f. [Acronyms]) and thus starting from a basis of interoperability would be good.
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From adoyle Tue Nov 16 10:51:22 -0500 2004
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From: adoyle
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:51:22 -0500
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Subject: Great article about wikipedia
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Message-ID: <20041116105122-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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http://www.techcentralstation.com/111504A.html
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From cholmes Tue Nov 16 20:19:39 -0500 2004
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From: cholmes
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Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:19:39 -0500
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Subject: Need an outline
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Message-ID: <20041116201939-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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In-Reply-To: <20041108163744-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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I very much agree with interopertability focus, and then follow the tools from there.  Indeed I'll even volunteer for WFS :)  Also I would definitely like to follow the direction mick pointed out, as I'm going to Zambia next year to examine such issues, and thus will be able to justify a lot more work on this book if we can take it there.
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From ianturton Wed Nov 17 13:12:28 -0500 2004
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From: ianturton
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Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:12:28 -0500
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Subject: Outline
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Message-ID: <20041117131228-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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I've written a first outline, based on James' comments. Feel free to add, subtract or completly change it.
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From markus Fri Dec 10 09:20:27 -0500 2004
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From: markus
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:20:27 -0500
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Subject: Outline focus
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Message-ID: <20041210092027-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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Seems that this outline is very general. I am not quite sure if we want to write a GIS lecture book. I would think that Interoperability should be the focus. Then we would need Gazetteers in and some other things (like modelling) out of the outline.
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From jens Fri Dec 10 09:58:09 -0500 2004
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From: jens
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:58:09 -0500
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Subject: Outline
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Message-ID: <20041210095809-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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In-Reply-To: <20041117131228-0500@www.eogeo.org>
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Instead of editing I'd prefer to add a reply here...
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How about having a more general chapter on the feature concept (OGC AS & ISO 191xx) which includes the CRS stuff and leads to more implementation-near technology like GML, WFS, the portrayal model and WMS (in this or reversed order)?
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From ljegou Mon Aug 22 05:39:52 -0400 2005
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From: ljegou
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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:39:52 -0400
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Subject: Other efforts & info to be aware of
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Message-ID: <20050822053952-0400@www.eogeo.org>
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"Web Mapping Illustrated (using Open Source GIS Toolkits)", by Tyler Mitchell, O'Reilly, 2005
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http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/webmapping/inx.html

Revision as of 08:36, 10 July 2006

First-time Visitors

What's this all about? -- There was a "discussion":http://intevation.de/pipermail/freegis-list/2004-October/001912.html on the "FreeGIS":http://www.freegis.org "mailing list":http://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list about people wanting to collaborate to write a book. One thing led to another and a group of people decided to start here. If you would like to join in, please do so! Sign up for the "FreeGISBook mailing list":http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/freegisbook and make yourself an "account":http://www.eogeo.org/join_form here on "EOGEO.org.":http://www.eogeo.org Then you can discuss things and contribute material to this site.

General Info

Mailing list -- http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/freegisbook

Archives -- http://lists.eogeo.org/pipermail/freegisbook/

Project page -- http://freegisbook.eogeo.org/ (Redirects to http://www.eogeo.org/Projects/projects_wiki/FreeGISBook/)

"IRC":http://www.eogeo.org/Projects/projects_wiki/HowToIRC -- Visit the "EOGEO channel":irc://irc.freenode.net#eogeo on irc.freenode.net

FreeGISBookLicense -- Discussion about licenses for the book. We need to pick one. For now assume that this falls under the Creative Commons "Attribution - Share Alike license.":http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ (Note it's the new 2.0 version)

AuthorMeetings -- Places where authors might meet. E.g. OGC meetings, MUM3/OSGIS/EOGEO...

[FreeGISRelationship] -- The relationship to "FreeGIS.org":http://www.freegIS.org

Draft I 

* FreeGISBookOverview

* FreeGISBookOutline

* FreeGISBookInteroperability

* FreeGISBookAudience

* FreeGISBookSkillAdvancement

* FreeGISBookFragments - Stuff that's too good to lose but not really ready for the book

Other efforts & info to be aware of 

* "GSDI Cookbook":http://www.gsdi.org/gsdicookbookindex.asp

* "SDI Africa: An implementation guide":http://geoinfo.uneca.org/sdiafrica/

* "Mapping Hacks":http://oreilly.com/catalog/mappinghks - a new O'Reilly Media book covering lots of neat geospatial tools, hints and tricks.  Includes mostly open source tools.

* "The GIS Book,":http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0766828204/104-2302765-4397524?v=glance Korte, George, !OnWord Press (Acquired Titles), 5th edition (August 30, 2000). Based on the description, it also deals with Free GIS (but it could be of the freeware kind...)

* M. Neteler and H. Mitasova, 2004, "Open Source GIS: A GRASS GIS Approach":http://mpa.itc.it/grassbook2/ . Second Edition. The Kluwer international series in Engineering and Computer Science (SECS): Volume 773. Kluwer Academic Publishers, Boston, Dordrecht, London, ISBN: 1-4020-8064-6. 2nd Edition August 2004, 424 pages

* "Web Mapping Illustrated":http://oreilly.com/catalog/webmapping - another new O'Reilly book covering open source geospatial applications.

* "How to create a color raster from LandSat 7 imagery":http://www.itopen.it/2005/09/12/how-to-create-a-color-raster-from-landsat-7-imagery/

Comments 

Note that the comments below can be factored into the material as we go. Comments are basically formatted text that sits at the bottom of any page.

From kenzky Fri Nov 5 16:37:22 -0500 2004 From: kenzky Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:37:22 -0500 Subject: FreeGISList Message-ID: <20041105163722-0500@www.eogeo.org>

Moved bulky list of packages from this comment to FreeGISBookMajorPackages. -kenzky Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:30:22 -0500


From adoyle Fri Nov 5 17:42:26 -0500 2004 From: adoyle Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:42:26 -0500 Subject: Need an outline Message-ID: <20041105174226-0500@www.eogeo.org>

I think it would be good to construct a book outline. Obviously there would be a section with info about each of the major packages. I would also like to see an overview that ties things together. Also an interoperability chapter (or section) and some discussion on how to get various packages to interoperate.

From ajolma Sat Nov 6 05:56:24 -0500 2004 From: ajolma Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 05:56:24 -0500 Subject: Need an outline Message-ID: <20041106055624-0500@www.eogeo.org> In-Reply-To: <20041105174226-0500@www.eogeo.org>

We need to define who is the target reader(s): analysts, casual users, programmers? My suggestions for the outline: spatial data and data formats, real-world application examples, scripting. I think interoperation is (potentially) a very strong advantage of FS, so I suggest more rather than less discussion on that topic.

From mickwilson Sat Nov 6 19:44:26 -0500 2004 From: mickwilson Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 19:44:26 -0500 Subject: Okay, good.... Message-ID: <20041106194426-0500@www.eogeo.org>

I live and work in Africa... have done so for too many years now. Two weeks ago the UN in Nairobi hosted the conference of the African Association for Remote Sensing of the Environment.Once again, as so many times in the past, the plea was for 'more hardware', 'more money for licenses' and 'more money for training'.

I suspect that many of these pleas are fallacious, or based on ignorance. I believe that EO-GEO and the OSS movement can cut through much of this bamboo and enable donor funds to be better focussed on the development of human skills.

Interested in making this book a stepping-stone in that direction?

From jmacgill Mon Nov 8 16:07:58 -0500 2004 From: jmacgill Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:07:58 -0500 Subject: Need an outline Message-ID: <20041108160758-0500@www.eogeo.org> In-Reply-To: <20041106055624-0500@www.eogeo.org>

Would it in fact be an idea to structure the book around introprability standards, i.e. a chapter per standard (rahter than a single interopability chapter). With a discusion of the applicable tools.

perhaps we even present this as a 'the right way to do things is to use Open Standards' and follow up with 'and by the way, you can do all of this with Open Source tools'

From adoyle Mon Nov 8 16:37:44 -0500 2004 From: adoyle Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:37:44 -0500 Subject: Need an outline Message-ID: <20041108163744-0500@www.eogeo.org> In-Reply-To: <20041108160758-0500@www.eogeo.org>

Yes, I like this idea. I'd like to foster an SDI (c.f. [Acronyms]) and thus starting from a basis of interoperability would be good.

From adoyle Tue Nov 16 10:51:22 -0500 2004 From: adoyle Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:51:22 -0500 Subject: Great article about wikipedia Message-ID: <20041116105122-0500@www.eogeo.org>

http://www.techcentralstation.com/111504A.html

From cholmes Tue Nov 16 20:19:39 -0500 2004 From: cholmes Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:19:39 -0500 Subject: Need an outline Message-ID: <20041116201939-0500@www.eogeo.org> In-Reply-To: <20041108163744-0500@www.eogeo.org>

I very much agree with interopertability focus, and then follow the tools from there. Indeed I'll even volunteer for WFS :) Also I would definitely like to follow the direction mick pointed out, as I'm going to Zambia next year to examine such issues, and thus will be able to justify a lot more work on this book if we can take it there.

From ianturton Wed Nov 17 13:12:28 -0500 2004 From: ianturton Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:12:28 -0500 Subject: Outline Message-ID: <20041117131228-0500@www.eogeo.org>

I've written a first outline, based on James' comments. Feel free to add, subtract or completly change it.

From markus Fri Dec 10 09:20:27 -0500 2004 From: markus Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:20:27 -0500 Subject: Outline focus Message-ID: <20041210092027-0500@www.eogeo.org>

Seems that this outline is very general. I am not quite sure if we want to write a GIS lecture book. I would think that Interoperability should be the focus. Then we would need Gazetteers in and some other things (like modelling) out of the outline.


From jens Fri Dec 10 09:58:09 -0500 2004 From: jens Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 09:58:09 -0500 Subject: Outline Message-ID: <20041210095809-0500@www.eogeo.org> In-Reply-To: <20041117131228-0500@www.eogeo.org>

Instead of editing I'd prefer to add a reply here... How about having a more general chapter on the feature concept (OGC AS & ISO 191xx) which includes the CRS stuff and leads to more implementation-near technology like GML, WFS, the portrayal model and WMS (in this or reversed order)?

From ljegou Mon Aug 22 05:39:52 -0400 2005 From: ljegou Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:39:52 -0400 Subject: Other efforts & info to be aware of Message-ID: <20050822053952-0400@www.eogeo.org>

"Web Mapping Illustrated (using Open Source GIS Toolkits)", by Tyler Mitchell, O'Reilly, 2005

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/webmapping/inx.html

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