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Some kind of interactions between Debian Devloper Sebastian Cowenburg and PDAL Developer Howard Butler, have led to protest and action by sebastic. The net effect is that from May 2022 onward, new revisions of PDAL will not be built and inluded in the "upstream" Debian GIS system of packaging. There is a complex and long-standing relationship between Debian GIS/sebastic and OSGeoLive/UbuntuGIS/kalxas. Essentially, both Debian and UbuntuGIS opportunistically feed on the work products of the other. There is a general context of more work than any one or small group of people can do, to formalize and ingest new OSS software into Debian packages. [7] | Some kind of interactions between Debian Devloper Sebastian Cowenburg and PDAL Developer Howard Butler, have led to protest and action by sebastic. The net effect is that from May 2022 onward, new revisions of PDAL will not be built and inluded in the "upstream" Debian GIS system of packaging. There is a complex and long-standing relationship between Debian GIS/sebastic and OSGeoLive/UbuntuGIS/kalxas. Essentially, both Debian and UbuntuGIS opportunistically feed on the work products of the other. There is a general context of more work than any one or small group of people can do, to formalize and ingest new OSS software into Debian packages. [7] | ||
Revision as of 16:05, 15 May 2022
Open Issues from the Mailing List May 2022
from: jenriquesoriano@guadaltel.com cc: Marco.MINGHINI@ec.europa.eu; portele@interactive-instruments.de; herrmann@interactive-instruments.de; michael.lutz@ec.europa.eu; josebarrero@guadaltel.com
Dear OSGeoLive team, we contact you to kindly propose the inclusion of the ETF testing framework in the OSGeoLive distribution. Following the requirements, please find below the answer to the required questions. Please let us know if any additional clarification is needed. [0] -VLINK- -GITHUB-
Reply: Angelos 4/28
Thank you for your application. ; We will process during our next project meeting and provide feedback.
from: Jim Klassen 4/11
I'd suggest looking at the live-build debian package (which is also available in Ubuntu). It can build an iso/usb hybrid boot image (with optional installer), supports a persistence file on USB, and doesn't seem to have a 4GB limit on the squashfs root.
Reply: Angelos 4/28
Yes, this has been a nice option since Ubuntu switched to using live-build officially some years ago.
I think we need a demo script to see how it would work before deciding if this is the way forward.
In the meantime, there is an option to use xorriso package (I need to find some time to test)
Java Version 5/14 darkblueb: Deegree Code Sprint -- the take-away from the email was.. Deegree v3.4x will work with Java 8; Deegree v3.5x will require Java 11 and a newer Tomcat..
PDAL Misc Notes
Discussion of PDAL, related source code projects, related technology, goals of the OSGeoLive project, goals of OSGeo dot org, general commentary.
Technology -- Point clouds are a digital format of remote sensing data [0]. Intense advancement of digital geospatial technology in the modern era includes point clouds, for visualization structures [1], for situational awareness in security applications, measurement & modelling of remote sensing environments including ground water surfaces and forestry applications, and more.
The LAS file format [2] was invented by FOSS author Martin Isenburg and subsequently gained standing as an international standard. Using invention and out-of-the-box thinking, LAS represents true, original advancement in the open digital science field. Martin is widely regarded now, after his passing, as one of the great contributors to our field [3]. Subsequently, a system for compression on the data was devised, with associated IP rights. [4] PDAL is an extensible software system implemented mostly in C++, as a project modeled directly on the vastly-influential GDAL project. Founder Howard Butler used ideas, community mechanisms and plug-in driver-model, based directly from GDAL. [5]
Howard 'hobu' Butler and PDAL PSC Member Mike Smith have indicated that PDAL plus "all of Howard's projects" are affected by the recent diplomatic snafu. This list is at least PDAL, liblas, libspatialindex, and python-rtree.[7] (python-rtree is a python wrapper for libspatialindex) Please note that dozens of prominent contributors have built these collected software libraries, not Howard Butler alone [8]. The contributor list, enginerring correctness, and market impact of these software libraries are built directly on the community and engineering reputation of GDAL.
[0] -WIKIPEDIA- [1] -GOOGLE- [2] -LAS- [3] -BIO- [4] -ZIP- [5] -PDAL- [6] -LINK-
[7] https://salsa.debian.org/debian-gis-team/libspatialindex https://salsa.debian.org/debian-gis-team/python-rtree https://salsa.debian.org/debian-gis-team/geographiclib
[8] https://github.com/libLAS/libLAS/graphs/contributors https://github.com/libspatialindex/libspatialindex/graphs/contributors https://github.com/Toblerity/rtree/graphs/contributors
[9] -DISTRO-
Goals of OSGeoLive
The OSGeoLive GNU-linux project exists to showcase the ecosystem of OSGeo dot org incubated projects with documentation in ten+ human languages, serves as a reference code implementation of installation and inter-operability of these software projects using OGC and open standards, and demonstrate using a curated showcase of examples to trial the software without undue burden on the user. Current and developing technology stacks, on the server, in the browser, on the desktop, are updated and run in a modern, networked linux stack. OSGeoLive has been recognized by Distro-watch and other professional catalogs of modern linux. [9]
History -- past uses of PDAL on OSGeoLive:
PDAL binary has existed on OSGeoLive linux for some years. In June 2018, a short install script was added to the OSGeoLive repo. [6]
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/ticket/2072
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/ticket/2283
Conflict within the broader community
Some kind of interactions between Debian Devloper Sebastian Cowenburg and PDAL Developer Howard Butler, have led to protest and action by sebastic. The net effect is that from May 2022 onward, new revisions of PDAL will not be built and inluded in the "upstream" Debian GIS system of packaging. There is a complex and long-standing relationship between Debian GIS/sebastic and OSGeoLive/UbuntuGIS/kalxas. Essentially, both Debian and UbuntuGIS opportunistically feed on the work products of the other. There is a general context of more work than any one or small group of people can do, to formalize and ingest new OSS software into Debian packages. [7]
Debian packaging is the standard for signed, authenticated software products to be integrated into linux OS computers, and include the most trusted sources of software available today, due to cryptographic immutability and integrity of the package contents.
[7] -DEBIAN-
EMAIL Inquiry April 2022
Hi Howard -
thank you for presenting and organizing at Cloud-Native Geospatial Days this week.
re: Debian Can you help me understand this email ? I do not have current context on this.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1009625
thank you --Brian M Hamlin / MAPLABS / Berkeley, Calif.
Howard Butler replies: The context is Bas is removing PDAL from Debian [1]. No other Debian maintainer has come forward to continue its inclusion. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-gis/2022/02/msg00004.html
The present author Brian M Hamlin, MAPLABS Berkeley, raised the issue to the Board of Directors of OSGeo dot org in April 2022, noting that some kind of clock is now ticking, marking the 'removal' of PDAL (and perhaps a small list of related software) from the Debian build pipeline. In fact, no packages will be 'removed' from Debian, it means that no new packages will be built and integrated, past that date, as things stand now. The details of this mechanism are complicated. Angelos has indicated that UbuntuGIS project has seperate standing, and may or may not be in a similar situation.
OSGeo Board Meeting wiki "Board Meeting 2022-04-25"
* Issues in Debian packaging of pdal (https://pdal.io/) * Conda can’t be used on OSGeoLive * What exactly is required from board? (considering PDAL is not an OSGeo affiliated project) * Considering it as a technical problem, a solution can be figured out internally for inclusion of PDAL in OSGeoLive (ed. within the OSGeoLive project)
kalxas indicated a willingness to build bridges at the Board level to the PDAL project, considering that most everyone involved is an OSGeo member
How to Proceed
Wiki Notes on PDAL - darkblueb writes:
""LiDAR "maybe?" : this is slightly painful since modern commercial GIS is flooded with this tech, delivered by advanced Western companies seeking something novel to sell. Changes to the LASzip licensing have enabled inclusion, but as of today, no Debian maintainer in place, and bas wants PDAL out at this time. -EMAIL- -EMAIL2-""
Online Chat meeting, partial notes:
libLAS-link- libspatialindex-link- python-rtree-link-
darkblueb writes:
"Personalmente, no espero paquetes de Debian. Si creamos un script de instalación personalizado e incluimos etiquetas de versión de git y lo enviamos solo en OSGeoLive, está bien para mí.
"Personally, I don't expect Debian packages. If we create a custom install script and include git version tags and push it only on OSGeoLive, that's fine with me.
After the short IRC meeting went badly:
3:07:57 PM - darkblueb: robe2 - you are trusted by this org, you have successful clients and a book that sells a few copies, and at this point, you are a leader here. this disk serves this community.. that is my commitment
of course I have opinions, I have three decades of real work in software in California. My opinion
includes getting access to high tech, to people who are not insiders, and not necessarily in a uniform
thats what drives these PDAL etc talks.. GNU + open FAIR access.. it is my view
darkblueb: very few people show up to do the work here.. I like it and do it enthusiastically.. not everyone is glad for that, apparently.. so it goes
robe2: darkblueb: That's one of the clearest things you've said today. I have that opinion too. Just not as convinced as you how to get there. I have not much opinion on how to get there. Just that the shortest path is not a straight line
Remove Snapd
darkblueb@live:~$ sudo snap list Name Version Rev Tracking Publisher Notes core20 20220329 1434 latest/stable canonical✓ base snapd 2.55.3 15534 latest/stable canonical✓ snapd
darkblueb@live:~$ sudo snap remove core20 core20 removed darkblueb@live:~$ sudo snap remove snapd snapd removed
darkblueb@live:~$ sudo systemctl stop snapd && sudo systemctl disable snapd
Warning: Stopping snapd.service, but it can still be activated by:
snapd.socket
Removed /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/snapd.service.
darkblueb@live:~$ sudo apt purge snapd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
libfwupdplugin1 squashfs-tools
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
snapd*
darkblueb@live:~$ rm -rf ~/snap darkblueb@live:~$ sudo rm -rf /snap /var/snap /var/lib/snapd /var/cache/snapd /usr/lib/snapd /root/snap
apache_allura https://github.com/apache/allura.git ArcRasterRescue https://github.com/r-barnes/ArcRasterRescue.git batyr https://github.com/nmandery/batyr.git BONAI https://github.com/jwwangchn/BONAI.git containerd https://github.com/docker/containerd cpdup https://github.com/DragonFlyBSD/cpdup.git csv2sqlite https://github.com/psanford/csv2sqlite.git cube-in-a-box https://github.com/opendatacube/cube-in-a-box.git datacube-core https://github.com/opendatacube/datacube-core.git docker-postgis https://github.com/appropriate/docker-postgis.git earthenterprise https://github.com/google/earthenterprise elegant-scipy https://github.com/elegant-scipy/elegant-scipy.git gdal-segment https://github.com/cbalint13/gdal-segment.git geographiclib-code https://github.com/geographiclib/geographiclib geonode https://github.com/GeoNode/geonode.git geopandas https://github.com/geopandas/geopandas.git geos git@github_key:libgeos/geos.git geos-performance https://github.com/pramsey/geos-performance.git gitea https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea gobby https://github.com/gobby/gobby.git high_performance_python https://github.com/mynameisfiber/high_performance_python.git imaptools_github https://github.com/woodbri/imaptools.com.git introduction_to_ml_with_python https://github.com/amueller ipython https://github.com/ipython/ipython.git jts_loctech https://github.com/locationtech/jts.git jupyter-cm https://github.com/jupyter-incubator/contentmanagement.git jupyter_notebook https://github.com/jupyter/notebook.git kaggleScape https://github.com/adgirish/kaggleScape.git leehach_census https://github.com/leehach/census-postgres.git libgeotiff https://github.com/OSGeo/libgeotiff.git libosmium https://github.com/osmcode/libosmium.git libosmium https://github.com/osmcode/osm-testdata logbt https://github.com/mapbox/logbt.git looking-glass-pub https://github.com/developmentseed/looking-glass-pub.git mapcache git://github.com/mapserver/mapcache.git mapserv_basemaps https://github.com/mapserver/basemaps.git mapserver_github https://github.com/mapserver/mapserver.git ML_for_Hackers_github https://github.com/johnmyleswhite/ML_for_Hackers.git modern-cpp-tutorial https://github.com/changkun/modern-cpp-tutorial.git narsc16 https://github.com/sjsrey/narsc16.git opencv https://github.com/opencv/opencv opencv-itseez https://github.com/Itseez/opencv.git opengdp https://github.com/opengdp/opengdp.git osm2pgsql_git https://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql osmcode_osm-gis-export https://github.com/osmcode/osm-gis-export osmium-tool https://github.com/osmcode/osmium-tool.git osm-testdata https://github.com/osmcode/osm-testdata oss-fuzz https://github.com/rouault/oss-fuzz OWSLib git://github.com/geopython/OWSLib.git pandas_020 https://github.com/pandas-dev/pandas.git pandoc git://github.com/jgm/pandoc.git perfecttin https://github.com/OSGeo/perfecttin.git perfecttin https://github.com/phma/perfecttin pgimportdoc https://github.com/okbob/pgimportdoc.git pgsql-ogr-fdw https://github.com/pramsey/pgsql-ogr-fdw.git proj_github https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ protozero https://github.com/mapbox/protozero psycopg2_git https://github.com/psycopg/psycopg2.git pygeos https://github.com/pygeos/pygeos pygit2 https://github.com/libgit2/pygit2.git pystac_github https://github.com/azavea/pystac.git qhull https://github.com/qhull/qhull.git rasterio https://github.com/mapbox/rasterio.git raster-vision https://github.com/azavea/raster-vision.git rindcalc_github https://github.com/darkblue-b/rindcalc.git ripgrep git://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep satproc https://github.com/dymaxionlabs/satproc.git scikit-image https://github.com/scikit-image/scikit-image.git scikit-learn https://github.com/scikit-learn/scikit-learn.git scipy_github https://github.com/scipy/scipy.git scitools_iris https://github.com/SciTools/iris.git Shapely https://github.com/Toblerity/Shapely.git tile38 https://github.com/tidwall/tile38.git
Note:
[0] adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html <--- this is in the Project application material? current url should be :