Difference between revisions of "Community Mapbuilder Incubation Progress"

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; Has the projectname.osgeo.org domain been populated with the projects web presence?  
 
; Has the projectname.osgeo.org domain been populated with the projects web presence?  
 
: ''If not why, and has the project page got a prominent link to the real home?''
 
: ''If not why, and has the project page got a prominent link to the real home?''
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: Why not just point the domain at the existing MapBuilder site? -- [[User:SchuylerErle|SchuylerErle]]
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: Schuyler, I agree that this is a good idea, but we were told that this didn't fit with OSGeo goals.
 
: http://communitymapbuilder.osgeo.org has been set up and points to http://communitymapbuilder.org.
 
: http://communitymapbuilder.osgeo.org has been set up and points to http://communitymapbuilder.org.
: Comments from Cameron Shorter: Currently I'm reluctant to move our services to colabnet.  Migrating to Colabnet would involve a medium amount of effort and would loose some information like bugs from the bug tracker.
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: Comments from [[User:camerons|Cameron Shorter]]: Currently I'm reluctant to move our services to CollabnetHere are the reasons:
: Should we leave OSGeo in the future, or OSGeo decides to stop using Collabnet, we would be faced with a similar exit cost because there is not a free version of Colabnet for Open Source projects.
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# While Collabnet is currently very supportive of OSGeo which is excellent to see, the reallity of the commercial world is that in five years there might be a change of management at Collabnet and the OSGeo support might be cut off.  So before we enter in with Collabnet, we need to think about an exit strategy if we loose Collabnet support.  As I understand it, the current exit strategy would involve migrating from proprietary tools to "free for open source" tools which would be expensive in effort.
: I would prefer to keep all project tools on one server rather than many.  Currently codehaus.org is providing our tools.  
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# Migrating to Colabnet would involve a medium amount of effort and we would loose some information like bugs from the bug tracker.
: Why not just point the domain at the existing MapBuilder site? -- [[User:SchuylerErle|SchuylerErle]]
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: I would prefer to keep all project tools on one server rather than many.  Currently codehaus.org is providing most of our tools. They provide tools for free, and the tools used are available for free to open source projects so we have a low cost exit stratagy if Codehaus folds.
: Schuyler, I agree that this is a good idea, but we were told that this didn't fit with
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; Is the OSGeo bug tracker being used for the project?   
 
; Is the OSGeo bug tracker being used for the project?   
:: No.  See justification above.
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:: No.  See justification above.  Moving to OSGeo will require medium effort and we will loose an amount of data.
  
 
; Is the OSGeo mailing list manager being used for the project?
 
; Is the OSGeo mailing list manager being used for the project?
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; Is the OSGeo SVN or CVS system being used for the project?
 
; Is the OSGeo SVN or CVS system being used for the project?
: No.  See justification above.
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: No.  It would be relatively easy to use SVN at OSGeo but we like to keep our tools all on the one server.  Codehaus also provides Fisheye, a nice tool for viewing the subversion repository.
  
 
; Are binary and source downloads available from the OSGeo download area?
 
; Are binary and source downloads available from the OSGeo download area?
: Not yet, we use Sourceforge, but we can do this if needed.
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: Not yet. We use Sourceforge.  This would be relatively easy to move to OSGeo.
  
 
== Community Functioning ==
 
== Community Functioning ==

Revision as of 14:42, 23 June 2006

Basics

Has the project been approved for incubation by the OSGeo board?
Yes.
Has an OSGeo committee member been assigned as Mentor?
Daniel Brookshier has been designated incubation mentor for Community MapBuilder.

Infrastructure Transition

Note, for each of the following it isn't necessary to move to foundation infrastructure, but if you aren't a reason should be provided.

Has the projectname.osgeo.org domain been populated with the projects web presence?
If not why, and has the project page got a prominent link to the real home?
Why not just point the domain at the existing MapBuilder site? -- SchuylerErle
Schuyler, I agree that this is a good idea, but we were told that this didn't fit with OSGeo goals.
http://communitymapbuilder.osgeo.org has been set up and points to http://communitymapbuilder.org.
Comments from Cameron Shorter: Currently I'm reluctant to move our services to Collabnet. Here are the reasons:
  1. While Collabnet is currently very supportive of OSGeo which is excellent to see, the reallity of the commercial world is that in five years there might be a change of management at Collabnet and the OSGeo support might be cut off. So before we enter in with Collabnet, we need to think about an exit strategy if we loose Collabnet support. As I understand it, the current exit strategy would involve migrating from proprietary tools to "free for open source" tools which would be expensive in effort.
  2. Migrating to Colabnet would involve a medium amount of effort and we would loose some information like bugs from the bug tracker.
I would prefer to keep all project tools on one server rather than many. Currently codehaus.org is providing most of our tools. They provide tools for free, and the tools used are available for free to open source projects so we have a low cost exit stratagy if Codehaus folds.
Is the OSGeo bug tracker being used for the project?
No. See justification above. Moving to OSGeo will require medium effort and we will loose an amount of data.
Is the OSGeo mailing list manager being used for the project?
No. Lists are stored on Sourceforge which has a slightly better interface - (Web subscribe interface, threads in the archieve). We could move our lists in future if archieves can be moved as well. But as yet, I don't see a need to move to an inferior tool.
Is the OSGeo SVN or CVS system being used for the project?
No. It would be relatively easy to use SVN at OSGeo but we like to keep our tools all on the one server. Codehaus also provides Fisheye, a nice tool for viewing the subversion repository.
Are binary and source downloads available from the OSGeo download area?
Not yet. We use Sourceforge. This would be relatively easy to move to OSGeo.

Community Functioning

Is there a functioning user support mechanisms (ie. mailing list)?
Yes, we have a busy list with lots of answers to user queries.
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=mapbuilder-devel
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=mapbuilder-users
Are source and binary downloads for the package available?
Yes. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=35246
Has a Project Steering Committee been formed, and given control of the project?
Yes. Project Steering Committee has been in effect since the start of the project. It currently consists of:
  • Cameron Shorter
  • Mike Adair
  • Patrice Cappelaere
  • Steven Ottens
Does the Project Steering Committee have documentation on project procedures for PSC decisions, contributor guidelines, etc.
Documentation in this area is a bit weak. This is what I could find:

http://communitymapbuilder.org/display/MAP/Contributers+Guide

Action on Mapbuilder: We need to be more specific about project decision making.
How many active developers are there? Are they from multiple organizations?
4 Core developers (the PSC) and around 10 to 15 other developers.
All the PSC work for different organisations and live in different countries. Similarly, the developers and users all come from different organisations and geographic locations.

Foundation Membership

Have project documents been updated to reflect membership in the foundation, and the relationship of the project to the foundation?
Not yet.
Question for OSGeo: What are you looking for here?
Has an effort been made to brand the project web site with OSGeo foundation web styling and branding marks?
Not yet. We will wait for an OSGeo web style to be established before using this style.

Code Copyright Review

Has a Code Provenance Review document been prepared for the project?
Yes. Results are in the Mapbuilder repository at mapbuilder/docs/licenseAudit/* and copied to Community Mapbuilder Provenance Review.
Have issues raised in the provenance review been adequately addressed?
Outstanding issues, Action: Mapbuilder to address
  1. mapbuilder/lib/util/MGRS.js Contains: "Got library from somewhere but don't know where"