Face to Face Meeting Seattle 2012

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As many board members as possible (and potentially others contributing to OSGeo) are planning to meet for two days.

When and Where

  • Pre IslandWood_Code_Sprint_2012 in Seattle, 4th and 5th February (Saturday and Sunday).
  • 9AM to 5PM on Saturday and 9AM to Noon on Sunday.
  • Cedarboork Lodge near the Seattle airport (http://www.cedarbrooklodge.com/)
    • venue includes wireless internet access, lodging, conference room, breakfast/lunch/snacks during meeting, etc


Board Members

  1. Frank Warmerdam (arrive Saturday morning, leaving Sunday evening)
  2. Arnulf Christl (Friday and Saturday over night, leaving Sunday pm)
  3. mpg -- arriving Saturday morning (8am), leaving Sunday afternoon (after meeting ends)
  4. Daniel Morissette -- arriving Friday night, leaving Sunday pm
  5. Peter Batty - arriving Friday night, leaving Sunday afternoon (flight at 3:09pm, so need to leave at 1pm or so)
  6. Mark Lucas -- arriving Friday night, leaving Monday (I'll pay the extra day)
  7. Jo Cook -- arriving Friday, leaving Monday (I'll pay the extra obviously)

Sunday guests:

  1. Paul Ramsey
  2. Aaron Racicot

Board members not attending:

  1. Jeff McKenna
  2. Tim Schaub


  • Friday evening: informal group dinner [if sufficient people around]
  • Saturday
    • 8:30am - continental breakfast
    • 11:00am - morning snack
    • 1:00pm - lunch
    • 3:00pm - afternoon snack
    • 5:00pm - meeting adjourn
    • 6:00pm - group dinner (on-site, CopperLeaf Restaurant)
  • Sunday
    • 8:30am - continental breakfast
    • 11:00am - morning snack
    • 1:00pm - lunch
    • (some time after lunch) - meeting adjourn
    • 3:00pm - afternoon snack [if needed]

Discussion Topics

  • Official chapter status http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Nederlands
  • Strategic mission, goals
  • Our budgeting process
  • FY2012 budget
  • Thoughts on sponsorships (see note 1 below)
  • Jeff & the Beijing trip - what happened?
  • The OSGeo Journal (see note 2 below)
    • long-term plan; intent, audience, funding, editor role, etc
  • 5013c status (see note 3 below)
  • endorsement of the Sierra Club v. Orange County amicus letter
  • Membership tracking

Note 1

mpg received the following email note about sponsorship of OSGeo:

I've been a consumer of Mapserver and supporting tools for years. I have never had much interest in getting down into the weeds of developing it. I was content to use the tools and accept the progress that was made.

I remember having a conversation in Victoria with one of the developers (can't remember who) about an enhancement I wanted to scalebars. The conversation quickly got into way more specification, implementation, and contract detail than I cared about. I had cash ready to support it but it just felt like too much effort to get the work done, so I never followed through.

The logo/sponsor thing on the OSGeo home page was useless to me. I'm not a Mapserver consultant, and there's no reason for me to pay for presence there--I would just be advertising to peers.

The codesprint sponsorship feels like a way to throw money in the direction of development that will benefit me (and the community too, of course), without having to become a program manager. I'm happy to trust the people involved to continue to do good engineering, to say no to bad ideas and feature requests, and to generally improve the state of the tools. I'm sure there must be other organizations who would like to support development, but would like a similarly frictionless way to do it.

Note 2

Landon Blake wrote:

I’m in the process of trying to wrap up the 2010 annual report of the OSGeo Journal. During this work some questions about the Journal kept surfacing. I wanted to ask them here. At this point, I’m unsure if work on the 2010 annual report should even continue.

Tyler Mitchell had a major role in previous efforts to prepare and publish the journal. His absence has created what I feel is an important void.

Some of this void deals with practical issues. For example:

  • How are decisions about the style, content, and format of the Journal going to be made?
  • Who has the final say on these decisions, and how is the board going to give its input, if at all?
  • Is there an official point of contact at the board for the journal team?
  • Will we support peer-reviewed articles on open source geospatial topics, and if so, what will our guidelines for submission and review be?
  • Will we have advertising of any form? If so, what will our guidelines be for adertising content?
  • Do we want to support alternate formats for the journal, like EPUB, MP4, Video, etc...

The void also creates some strategic issues. For example:

  • How does the Journal support the board’s long term goals for the organization?
  • How is the Journal related, if at all, to the organizations other activities?
  • Does the board even see a need for the Journal?

To be honest, at this point, despite repeated requests for help, production of the Journal is currently a one-man show. If the board decides it doesn’t want or need a journal, I’m OK with that decision.

If the board does feel the Journal is important, I’d like to talk with board members more about what the tasks the Journal is supposed to accomplish, how it is supposed to accomplish those tasks, and how this work will be coordinated and supported.

Note 3

David Bitner wrote:

Over the past couple years Tyler and I have had multiple conversations related to the moratorium that the IRS has had on accepting applications for 501c3 from "software" related non-profits. It seems as though they have started letting things through the system again. Sahana Software Foundation has just received our 501c3 (granted in the review process we tried to play up our humanitarian response activities over our software development) after a couple years in limbo. It may be a good time to try to follow up with the IRS if you have not done so recently.

Jeff McKenna wrote:

Regarding FOSS4G: I openly proposed the way forward, to make sure that the annual FOSS4G event maintains consistency and has guidance (Advisor Role). As we know, the Board turned down this proposal, which left no one to do those tasks (the tasks I have done in the background for so many years). The reality is that OSGeo does not have the funding for such a position; but, like any business proposal, I am very proud that I realized my value and I can sleep at night knowing I did so. Since all that, we can see that FOSS4G will go on, due to the many great people volunteering their time. Beijing will be a success, just like the Cape Town and Sydney events were - hugely helping Open Source geospatial grow in their communities. I couldn't be more proud of that. Thank you for reading.

Airport Shuttle Info

(from the Cedarbrook folks)

SEATAC AIRPORT to CEDARBROOK LODGE SHUTTLE: The airport shuttle picks up from ISLAND 1 or 3 in the parking garage. Follow the signs for ground transportation which will take you across the sky bridge to the parking garage. Go down one floor where there are 3 islands for shuttle pick up. There is a courtesy phone at ISLAND 1 or 3 with direct dial to Cedarbrook (#56). Please call once you arrive at ISLAND 1 or 3, at this time we will dispatch the driver for pickup. Cedarbrook is approximately ten minutes from the airport.

Address: 18525 36th Avenue South, SeaTac, WA 98188 Reception Desk: 866.901.9268 or 206.901.9268

CEDARBROOK LODGE to SEATAC AIRPORT SHUTTLE: Reservations are required for return shuttles to the airport. Please make your reservation with one of our Front Desk Guest Service Agents. The shuttle departs Cedarbrook on the hour & half-hour. Reservations may be made in person or by calling the reception desk at 206.901.3268. Shuttles drop off at ISLAND 1 or 3.

Please note our shuttle is not permitted to wait or circle the airport in compliance with Port of Seattle/SeaTac International Airport regulations.