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Board decided on December 7th 2017 meeting that the contract can be signed, Helena Mitasova (current vice-president) will take care of it but needs the document to be signed. I (strk) asked Alex and Martin about that, waiting for a reply
 
Board decided on December 7th 2017 meeting that the contract can be signed, Helena Mitasova (current vice-president) will take care of it but needs the document to be signed. I (strk) asked Alex and Martin about that, waiting for a reply
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== Transcript ==
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    20:00:20 jgarnett: good day!
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    20:00:31 robe2: okay everyone ready to meet
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    20:00:35 jgarnett: I have a few moments to say hi :)
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    20:00:45 robe2: by the way jgarnett I'm doing ldap install now
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    20:00:55 robe2: didn't like the first ldap plugin I tried now up to my second.
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    20:01:15 jgarnett: excellent! I confirmed I can edit, and wanted to check with you before inviting people to do so ...
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    20:01:22 robe2: Okay I'll start with wordpress status
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    20:01:47 jgarnett: excellent :)
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    20:02:00 robe2: I should have LDAP configured today which at that point you should be able to log in with your old get interactive assigned account or your new
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    20:02:13 robe2: I'm setting to auto create accounts if account does not exist on first login
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    20:02:22 robe2: I'll keep you posted when its ready to test
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    20:02:45 * strk wears the burocrat hat
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    20:02:46 robe2: as far as hard-coded get interactive, it's easy enough I can fix those if that is all you see wrong Jody
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    20:03:05 strk: we should start meetings with roll call, elect chair and scribe
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    20:03:15 jgarnett: my update is easier, marketing committee is done checking that the content/functionality is ready and "signed off" on all the line items we can.
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    20:03:18 robe2: strk you have a useless burocrat comment to make
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    20:03:28 * robe2 thinks all burocrats are useless
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    20:03:31 jgarnett: This leaves SAC with 3 or 4 line items to sign off on before contract is paid.
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    20:03:33 * strk takes the hat off
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    20:04:11 robe2: here is the line items - https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2017-November/008923.html
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    20:04:12 sigabrt: Title: [SAC] Fwd: component 2 review (at lists.osgeo.org)
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    20:04:39 robe2: so I should be done today with item 3.3.2.19
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    20:04:39 jgarnett: that mail missed one:
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    20:04:56 jgarnett: 3.3.2.1 General theme components <-- this was waiting on transfer of wordpress assets to some git repo? May be done already ...
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    20:05:19 robe2: jgarnett I don't think Jeffrey got me that document he promised about general setup he did
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    20:05:31 robe2: though I've been half asleep so I could have missed it
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    20:05:48 jgarnett: We can wait to confirm, if you can send a reminder email.
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    20:05:59 robe2: I think that's the only thing left to make me feel confident that SAC can handle the remaining items
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    20:06:11 robe2: Okay will send that to him
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    20:07:31 jgarnett: that may be all we have to discuss today
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    20:07:51 jgarnett: unless you have guidence about inviting people to edit again
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    20:10:03 jgarnett: it went quiet are we in an IRC bubble again?
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    20:10:25 robe2: jgarnett after I install -- was thinking a couple of us can test e.g. you, me , cvvergara
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    20:10:54 robe2: then we can decide if we want to remap existing accounts to ldap or just have people resign - and how we want to map osgeo orgs to wp permissions
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    20:11:37 jgarnett: okay, thanks for the clarification. Will hold off sending email invite.
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    20:12:26 strk: so second agenda item ?
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    20:12:42 * strk belives in burocracy
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    20:12:54 strk: isn't all coding about creating burocracies
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    20:13:40 robe2: second agenda item - sys contract
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    20:13:50 robe2: looks like Alex isn't here to fill us in on that
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    20:13:54 strk: neither Alex nor Martin are here
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    20:14:02 strk: but I know I mailed president@osgeo
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    20:14:17 robe2: okay can you put that on discuss tab
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    20:14:19 strk: she said today board meeting approved signing
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    20:14:56 robe2: I'll fill in the discuss tab for wordpress after I have ldap login working and feel content with the plugin I installed (I may need to go thru several)
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    20:15:26 robe2: next Drone / Gitea status
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    20:15:57 robe2: I have test gitea on winnie installed, ldap working great. Haven't experimented with restore of git.osgeo.org backup as you suggested strk :(
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    20:16:15 robe2: anything to report on your end strk for gitea/drone we are all set with git version right?
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    20:16:25 robe2: that it supports our antiquated git
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    20:17:18 strk: I'm not sure that discussion tab is appropriate for the outcomes, anyway, filled mine
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    20:17:41 strk: Gitea status: 1.3.0 is out, I'm not positive but chances are it already supports our ancient git
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    20:18:04 strk: it's to be tested that it works with current Drone setup
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    20:18:37 robe2: strk since I have gitea 1.3.0 installed on ianna, any easy way for me to tell. She's probably got newer git since she's a debian 9
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    20:19:00 strk: I can tell from sources, one sec
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    20:19:52 strk: vendor/code.gitea.io/git/git.go: GitVersionRequired = "1.7.2" # <-- that's the required version, with tag 1.3.0 of Gitea
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    20:20:07 robe2: and what are we running?
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    20:20:15 strk: 1.7.>2
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    20:20:23 robe2: okay good
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    20:20:24 strk: we're fine
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    20:20:31 robe2: so it's just the drone thing we are not sure of
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    20:20:43 strk: yes
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    20:20:59 strk: do you have a repo there ?
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    20:22:19 robe2: strk I have a dumb repo
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    20:22:52 robe2: I was going to ask what is the easiest way to get postgis there to test with. Or do I have to do a git checkout and commit remote or something
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    20:23:08 robe2: I didn't see a menu option anywhere to copy a repo from remote
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    20:23:22 robe2: so assumed it wasn't supported
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    20:23:48 * robe2 questions may be really stupid cause git still mystifies here
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    20:24:07 robe2: test
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    20:24:14 robe2: here / her
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    20:24:25 robe2: sorry thought I lost my connection for a bit
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    20:24:47 markusN: hi, sorry for late (kids time...)
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    20:25:01 robe2: anyway strk if you want to add a repo to test be my guest or install a lower drone on ianna
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    20:25:08 strk: robe2: easiest way is to mirror it
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    20:25:18 strk: when you create the repo, it does support mirroring
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    20:25:25 strk: then you can switch to normal
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    20:25:27 strk: hi markusN
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    20:25:38 strk: robe2: then you can try https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/sac/drone-server-config.git
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    20:25:48 markusN: hi strk robe2 and the others
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    20:25:55 strk: branch drone-0.5, tweak the configuration to point at your Gitea url and something like that
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    20:25:55 * markusN catches up on log
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    20:26:12 robe2: you mean create the repo via gitea or just regular git local?
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    20:26:17 strk: via gitea
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    20:26:35 strk: you'll need to edit dronerc in that repo
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    20:26:38 robe2: okay I'll see if I can figure that out from docs and maybe provide a patch if I can't
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    20:27:12 strk: changing DRONE_GOGS_URL and DRONE_DATABASE_DATASOURCE
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    20:27:13 robe2: hi markusN
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    20:27:21 strk: oh wait... that config is meant to be used with a manually built drone binary
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    20:27:38 strk: that's because we didn't have Docker on the osgeo target machine
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    20:27:46 strk: now building a drone executable might not be so easy
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    20:27:52 strk: but you can copy the one on the osgeo machine
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    20:28:01 strk: it's just a single file anyway
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    20:28:12 strk: (but needs to run on linux, not windows)
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    20:28:14 robe2: strk so should I use the docker approach on ianna as I tried a while ago and screwed up
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    20:28:30 robe2: strk yah it's all running on linux
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    20:28:32 strk: don't use docker, copy the binary from drone.osgeo.org
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    20:28:56 robe2: sorry I misspoke earlier about winnie (I forgot ianna is proxying thru her and she's not doing the work)
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    20:29:11 strk: I could actually start another drone on a different port
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    20:29:25 robe2: okay will do - what server is drone.osgeo.org running on
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    20:29:34 strk: just ssh drone.osgeo.org :)
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    20:29:41 robe2: okay
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    20:29:43 strk: anyway, should be written on the wiki
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    20:30:03 strk: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Drone
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    20:30:04 sigabrt: Title: Drone - OSGeo (at wiki.osgeo.org)
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    20:30:11 robe2: osgeo6 it says
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    20:30:48 robe2: okay I'm in I'll experiment later after have wordpress ldap thing all done
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    20:31:28 robe2: next topic gitlab
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    20:31:46 robe2: guess we can skip since bjorn not here and he needs the new hardware anyway
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    20:32:13 strk: that's always been the main reason for Gogs/Gitea to win the race
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    20:32:37 robe2: next topic my favorite new hardware
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    20:32:56 robe2: but guess we can skip that since Alex isn't here to fill us in and assume it requires our budget approval
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    20:33:22 robe2: next topic geoforall dns - GeoForAll DNS
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    20:33:22 strk: do we want to buy the service of setting up translate.osgeo.or ?
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    20:33:31 strk: it's not on the agenda, but I have a quote
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    20:33:45 robe2: strk is this using weblate?
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    20:33:45 strk: well actually the quotes are public
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    20:33:49 strk: yes, weblate
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    20:34:03 robe2: just add to agenda
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    20:34:26 strk: this one or next ?
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    20:34:35 robe2: and the quote details to discuss -- I'm going to link all the sections to discuss sections when I am done with meeting
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    20:34:46 robe2: this one and also next
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    20:37:01 robe2_: sorry lost my connection
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    20:37:02 strk: added under Road Ahead
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    20:38:16 robe2_: as I was saying before I lost connection -- the priorties I see are -- get new website up (wordpress), ssl for all foss4g and other sites, new gitea/drone, the translate, gitlab etc
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    20:38:28 robe2_: of course things can run in parallel
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    20:38:57 robe2_: like I forgot the new osgeo hardware which a lot of these things probably will hinge on -- gitlab, (migrating wordpress) etc.
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    20:39:47 strk: top priority is supported ssl for current services, as people are getting warnings and refusals from browsers to visit OSGeo
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    20:40:19 robe2_: okay GeoForAll DNS anyone knows about that -- think last we left, we need someone with registrar access to orchestrate the move
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    20:40:22 strk: and we're delegating that to contractor, so higher priority is gettign that work started
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    20:40:29 markusN: yes, that's indeed imporant with the ssl
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    20:40:35 robe2_: I'm not even sure who the contact person is on the GeoForALL side currently
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    20:40:40 strk: absence of Martin and Alex from this meeting makes me nervous, and it's already 3 weeks or so
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    20:40:47 strk: since the motion passed, we're too slow
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    20:41:32 robe2_: strk well it is kinda holiday seasonny
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    20:41:46 markusN: (not in Germany)
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    20:41:53 robe2_: but I did expect at least one of them to be at this meeting
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    20:42:06 strk: germans never party
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    20:42:16 robe2_: I thought germans always party
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    20:42:30 markusN: indeed
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    20:42:35 robe2_: I heard germans spend 25% of their life on vacation. Or have I been misinformed
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    20:42:50 markusN: ...that explains the absence: party during work time
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    20:43:22 markusN: I can try to ping Martin
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    20:43:37 robe2_: strk did you ever hear back about increasing budget for contract
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    20:43:46 strk: nope
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    20:44:11 strk: I saw we have an agenda item about that, still in time to raise that up ?
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    20:44:11 robe2_: I never know how much we can ask for.
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    20:44:20 strk: when in dubt, ask more
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    20:44:24 cvvergara: sorry I am late
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    20:44:45 strk: I mean, we spent 30k for a wordpress template ?
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    20:44:48 robe2_: Might make sense to find out budgets of all projects and ask some to contribute. Heck PostGIS has never used any funding we could probably pass off our non-existent use to SAC
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    20:45:12 robe2_: strk to be fair it wasn't just the template
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    20:45:26 strk: yeah I'm oversimplifying, sorry
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    20:45:27 robe2_: there is a lot of content work and stuff orchestrated
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    20:45:57 robe2_: cvvergara np I already volunteered you to test wordpress after I have ldap working :)
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    20:45:58 markusN: We should just put a request to the board... like also projects do
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    20:46:09 strk: but I've the feeling we'll need SAC work for keeping www.osgeo.org/osgeo_userid cgi-bin and the like ? (we need to start using an alias about that)
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    20:46:13 cvvergara: ok, I can help on test
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    20:46:31 robe2_: markusN yah I think that's a great idea. Ask for the sky and settle.
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    20:46:35 strk: markusN: for the budget ? all comms have been asked to present a budget, and we did, it's documented on the wiki
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    20:46:55 robe2_: strk yah I really want to move osgeo_userid to some other domain like you said maybe somethng like identity
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    20:47:09 strk: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2018
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    20:47:10 sigabrt: Title: OSGeo Budget 2018 - OSGeo (at wiki.osgeo.org)
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    20:48:32 strk: uhm, detailed page has 20k, while summary page has 15k
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    20:48:42 strk: I've no idea which one was sent to board for discussio
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    20:49:03 robe2_: strk regarding ssls I think a lot of the foss4g are now in one place
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    20:49:04 strk: ah, I'm wrong, it's 20k for 2018 draft
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    20:49:26 robe2_: I'm going to followup with guido about moving 2017.foss4g.org back to osgeo so we can ssl it.
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    20:49:49 robe2_: we can use letsencrypt for everything. Hey it's good enough for postgresql.org, it's good enough for us :)
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    20:49:58 strk: of course it is
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    20:50:22 robe2_: so then of urgency would be the 2018 one. I think there current might just be static and they wanted one for registration
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    20:51:03 robe2_: strk and I did set letsencrypt to auto renew on the wordpress via cronjob I'll monitor but command worked fine running
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    20:51:32 strk: it should create a log file, cronjob may be frequent, but it'll only do something upon expiration (3 months?)
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    20:51:46 robe2_: strk yah we need Alex to up that. I'm thinking it might be a good idea to have 2 contracts running at same time (but make them a bit longer) so we have overlap
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    20:51:48 strk: so you will really only know after that time
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    20:51:51 markusN: I use letsencrypt for my stuff for long and it works perfectly. So let's try
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    20:52:03 robe2_: don't feel comfortable with having just martin
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    20:52:06 strk: it's already in use for git.osgeo.org
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    20:52:10 strk: and drone.osgeo.org
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    20:52:29 robe2_: and postgis.net and debbie.postgis.net and winnie.postgis.net :)
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    20:52:48 robe2_: but we don't have it as default on postgis.net (because of unsecure images we are currently linked to)
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    20:53:43 robe2_: okay I think that's it for meeting stuff - I'll try to itemize the easy knockoff ssls we can do and just do them if I can
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    20:54:11 robe2_: others like geoforall, foss4g2018, foss4g2017 may need registrar authority transfer
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    20:54:38 robe2_: anything else anyone wants to discuss or should we adjourn?
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    20:54:52 cvvergara: I have nothing to say :(
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    20:55:11 strk: maybe we should try another timing, of it's easier for Alex and Martin ?
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    20:56:03 markusN: could be... an hour later or two
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    20:56:12 robe2_: strk they are the ones that picked this time :)
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    20:56:19 robe2_: it was the most convenient for them
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    20:56:37 robe2_: but sure we can revisit the time
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    20:57:02 robe2_: okay meeting adjorned then

Revision as of 13:58, 7 December 2017

New Website status report

Regina in middle of install ldap plugin for wordpress. Will add to this page when done. Jody and Vicky will test ldap when done.

sysadmin contract

Board decided on December 7th 2017 meeting that the contract can be signed, Helena Mitasova (current vice-president) will take care of it but needs the document to be signed. I (strk) asked Alex and Martin about that, waiting for a reply

Transcript

   20:00:20	jgarnett:	good day!
   20:00:31	robe2:	okay everyone ready to meet
   20:00:35	jgarnett:	I have a few moments to say hi :)
   20:00:45	robe2:	by the way jgarnett I'm doing ldap install now
   20:00:55	robe2:	didn't like the first ldap plugin I tried now up to my second.
   20:01:15	jgarnett:	excellent! I confirmed I can edit, and wanted to check with you before inviting people to do so ...
   20:01:22	robe2:	Okay I'll start with wordpress status
   20:01:47	jgarnett:	excellent :)
   20:02:00	robe2:	I should have LDAP configured today which at that point you should be able to log in with your old get interactive assigned account or your new
   20:02:13	robe2:	I'm setting to auto create accounts if account does not exist on first login
   20:02:22	robe2:	I'll keep you posted when its ready to test
   20:02:45		* strk wears the burocrat hat
   20:02:46	robe2:	as far as hard-coded get interactive, it's easy enough I can fix those if that is all you see wrong Jody
   20:03:05	strk:	we should start meetings with roll call, elect chair and scribe
   20:03:15	jgarnett:	my update is easier, marketing committee is done checking that the content/functionality is ready and "signed off" on all the line items we can.
   20:03:18	robe2:	strk you have a useless burocrat comment to make
   20:03:28		* robe2 thinks all burocrats are useless
   20:03:31	jgarnett:	This leaves SAC with 3 or 4 line items to sign off on before contract is paid.
   20:03:33		* strk takes the hat off
   20:04:11	robe2:	here is the line items - https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2017-November/008923.html
   20:04:12	sigabrt:	Title: [SAC] Fwd: component 2 review (at lists.osgeo.org)
   20:04:39	robe2:	so I should be done today with item 3.3.2.19
   20:04:39	jgarnett:	that mail missed one:
   20:04:56	jgarnett:	3.3.2.1 General theme components <-- this was waiting on transfer of wordpress assets to some git repo? May be done already ...
   20:05:19	robe2:	jgarnett I don't think Jeffrey got me that document he promised about general setup he did
   20:05:31	robe2:	though I've been half asleep so I could have missed it
   20:05:48	jgarnett:	We can wait to confirm, if you can send a reminder email.
   20:05:59	robe2:	I think that's the only thing left to make me feel confident that SAC can handle the remaining items
   20:06:11	robe2:	Okay will send that to him
   20:07:31	jgarnett:	that may be all we have to discuss today
   20:07:51	jgarnett:	unless you have guidence about inviting people to edit again
   20:10:03	jgarnett:	it went quiet are we in an IRC bubble again?
   20:10:25	robe2:	jgarnett after I install -- was thinking a couple of us can test e.g. you, me , cvvergara
   20:10:54	robe2:	then we can decide if we want to remap existing accounts to ldap or just have people resign - and how we want to map osgeo orgs to wp permissions
   20:11:37	jgarnett:	okay, thanks for the clarification. Will hold off sending email invite.
   20:12:26	strk:	so second agenda item ?
   20:12:42		* strk belives in burocracy
   20:12:54	strk:	isn't all coding about creating burocracies
   20:13:40	robe2:	second agenda item - sys contract
   20:13:50	robe2:	looks like Alex isn't here to fill us in on that
   20:13:54	strk:	neither Alex nor Martin are here
   20:14:02	strk:	but I know I mailed president@osgeo
   20:14:17	robe2:	okay can you put that on discuss tab
   20:14:19	strk:	she said today board meeting approved signing
   20:14:56	robe2:	I'll fill in the discuss tab for wordpress after I have ldap login working and feel content with the plugin I installed (I may need to go thru several)
   20:15:26	robe2:	next Drone / Gitea status
   20:15:57	robe2:	I have test gitea on winnie installed, ldap working great. Haven't experimented with restore of git.osgeo.org backup as you suggested strk :(
   20:16:15	robe2:	anything to report on your end strk for gitea/drone we are all set with git version right?
   20:16:25	robe2:	that it supports our antiquated git
   20:17:18	strk:	I'm not sure that discussion tab is appropriate for the outcomes, anyway, filled mine
   20:17:41	strk:	Gitea status: 1.3.0 is out, I'm not positive but chances are it already supports our ancient git
   20:18:04	strk:	it's to be tested that it works with current Drone setup
   20:18:37	robe2:	strk since I have gitea 1.3.0 installed on ianna, any easy way for me to tell. She's probably got newer git since she's a debian 9
   20:19:00	strk:	I can tell from sources, one sec
   20:19:52	strk:	vendor/code.gitea.io/git/git.go: GitVersionRequired = "1.7.2" # <-- that's the required version, with tag 1.3.0 of Gitea
   20:20:07	robe2:	and what are we running?
   20:20:15	strk:	1.7.>2
   20:20:23	robe2:	okay good
   20:20:24	strk:	we're fine
   20:20:31	robe2:	so it's just the drone thing we are not sure of
   20:20:43	strk:	yes
   20:20:59	strk:	do you have a repo there ?
   20:22:19	robe2:	strk I have a dumb repo
   20:22:52	robe2:	I was going to ask what is the easiest way to get postgis there to test with. Or do I have to do a git checkout and commit remote or something
   20:23:08	robe2:	I didn't see a menu option anywhere to copy a repo from remote
   20:23:22	robe2:	so assumed it wasn't supported
   20:23:48		* robe2 questions may be really stupid cause git still mystifies here
   20:24:07	robe2:	test
   20:24:14	robe2:	here / her
   20:24:25	robe2:	sorry thought I lost my connection for a bit
   20:24:47	markusN:	hi, sorry for late (kids time...)
   20:25:01	robe2:	anyway strk if you want to add a repo to test be my guest or install a lower drone on ianna
   20:25:08	strk:	robe2: easiest way is to mirror it
   20:25:18	strk:	when you create the repo, it does support mirroring
   20:25:25	strk:	then you can switch to normal
   20:25:27	strk:	hi markusN
   20:25:38	strk:	robe2: then you can try https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/sac/drone-server-config.git
   20:25:48	markusN:	hi strk robe2 and the others
   20:25:55	strk:	branch drone-0.5, tweak the configuration to point at your Gitea url and something like that
   20:25:55		* markusN catches up on log
   20:26:12	robe2:	you mean create the repo via gitea or just regular git local?
   20:26:17	strk:	via gitea
   20:26:35	strk:	you'll need to edit dronerc in that repo
   20:26:38	robe2:	okay I'll see if I can figure that out from docs and maybe provide a patch if I can't
   20:27:12	strk:	changing DRONE_GOGS_URL and DRONE_DATABASE_DATASOURCE
   20:27:13	robe2:	hi markusN
   20:27:21	strk:	oh wait... that config is meant to be used with a manually built drone binary
   20:27:38	strk:	that's because we didn't have Docker on the osgeo target machine
   20:27:46	strk:	now building a drone executable might not be so easy
   20:27:52	strk:	but you can copy the one on the osgeo machine
   20:28:01	strk:	it's just a single file anyway
   20:28:12	strk:	(but needs to run on linux, not windows)
   20:28:14	robe2:	strk so should I use the docker approach on ianna as I tried a while ago and screwed up
   20:28:30	robe2:	strk yah it's all running on linux
   20:28:32	strk:	don't use docker, copy the binary from drone.osgeo.org
   20:28:56	robe2:	sorry I misspoke earlier about winnie (I forgot ianna is proxying thru her and she's not doing the work)
   20:29:11	strk:	I could actually start another drone on a different port
   20:29:25	robe2:	okay will do - what server is drone.osgeo.org running on
   20:29:34	strk:	just ssh drone.osgeo.org :)
   20:29:41	robe2:	okay
   20:29:43	strk:	anyway, should be written on the wiki
   20:30:03	strk:	https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Drone
   20:30:04	sigabrt:	Title: Drone - OSGeo (at wiki.osgeo.org)
   20:30:11	robe2:	osgeo6 it says
   20:30:48	robe2:	okay I'm in I'll experiment later after have wordpress ldap thing all done
   20:31:28	robe2:	next topic gitlab
   20:31:46	robe2:	guess we can skip since bjorn not here and he needs the new hardware anyway
   20:32:13	strk:	that's always been the main reason for Gogs/Gitea to win the race
   20:32:37	robe2:	next topic my favorite new hardware
   20:32:56	robe2:	but guess we can skip that since Alex isn't here to fill us in and assume it requires our budget approval
   20:33:22	robe2:	next topic geoforall dns - GeoForAll DNS
   20:33:22	strk:	do we want to buy the service of setting up translate.osgeo.or ?
   20:33:31	strk:	it's not on the agenda, but I have a quote
   20:33:45	robe2:	strk is this using weblate?
   20:33:45	strk:	well actually the quotes are public
   20:33:49	strk:	yes, weblate
   20:34:03	robe2:	just add to agenda
   20:34:26	strk:	this one or next ?
   20:34:35	robe2:	and the quote details to discuss -- I'm going to link all the sections to discuss sections when I am done with meeting
   20:34:46	robe2:	this one and also next
   20:37:01	robe2_:	sorry lost my connection
   20:37:02	strk:	added under Road Ahead
   20:38:16	robe2_:	as I was saying before I lost connection -- the priorties I see are -- get new website up (wordpress), ssl for all foss4g and other sites, new gitea/drone, the translate, gitlab etc
   20:38:28	robe2_:	of course things can run in parallel
   20:38:57	robe2_:	like I forgot the new osgeo hardware which a lot of these things probably will hinge on -- gitlab, (migrating wordpress) etc.
   20:39:47	strk:	top priority is supported ssl for current services, as people are getting warnings and refusals from browsers to visit OSGeo
   20:40:19	robe2_:	okay GeoForAll DNS anyone knows about that -- think last we left, we need someone with registrar access to orchestrate the move
   20:40:22	strk:	and we're delegating that to contractor, so higher priority is gettign that work started
   20:40:29	markusN:	yes, that's indeed imporant with the ssl
   20:40:35	robe2_:	I'm not even sure who the contact person is on the GeoForALL side currently
   20:40:40	strk:	absence of Martin and Alex from this meeting makes me nervous, and it's already 3 weeks or so
   20:40:47	strk:	since the motion passed, we're too slow
   20:41:32	robe2_:	strk well it is kinda holiday seasonny
   20:41:46	markusN:	(not in Germany)
   20:41:53	robe2_:	but I did expect at least one of them to be at this meeting
   20:42:06	strk:	germans never party
   20:42:16	robe2_:	I thought germans always party
   20:42:30	markusN:	indeed
   20:42:35	robe2_:	I heard germans spend 25% of their life on vacation. Or have I been misinformed
   20:42:50	markusN:	...that explains the absence: party during work time
   20:43:22	markusN:	I can try to ping Martin
   20:43:37	robe2_:	strk did you ever hear back about increasing budget for contract
   20:43:46	strk:	nope
   20:44:11	strk:	I saw we have an agenda item about that, still in time to raise that up ?
   20:44:11	robe2_:	I never know how much we can ask for.
   20:44:20	strk:	when in dubt, ask more
   20:44:24	cvvergara:	sorry I am late
   20:44:45	strk:	I mean, we spent 30k for a wordpress template ?
   20:44:48	robe2_:	Might make sense to find out budgets of all projects and ask some to contribute. Heck PostGIS has never used any funding we could probably pass off our non-existent use to SAC
   20:45:12	robe2_:	strk to be fair it wasn't just the template
   20:45:26	strk:	yeah I'm oversimplifying, sorry
   20:45:27	robe2_:	there is a lot of content work and stuff orchestrated
   20:45:57	robe2_:	cvvergara np I already volunteered you to test wordpress after I have ldap working :)
   20:45:58	markusN:	We should just put a request to the board... like also projects do
   20:46:09	strk:	but I've the feeling we'll need SAC work for keeping www.osgeo.org/osgeo_userid cgi-bin and the like ? (we need to start using an alias about that)
   20:46:13	cvvergara:	ok, I can help on test
   20:46:31	robe2_:	markusN yah I think that's a great idea. Ask for the sky and settle.
   20:46:35	strk:	markusN: for the budget ? all comms have been asked to present a budget, and we did, it's documented on the wiki
   20:46:55	robe2_:	strk yah I really want to move osgeo_userid to some other domain like you said maybe somethng like identity
   20:47:09	strk:	https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2018
   20:47:10	sigabrt:	Title: OSGeo Budget 2018 - OSGeo (at wiki.osgeo.org)
   20:48:32	strk:	uhm, detailed page has 20k, while summary page has 15k
   20:48:42	strk:	I've no idea which one was sent to board for discussio
   20:49:03	robe2_:	strk regarding ssls I think a lot of the foss4g are now in one place
   20:49:04	strk:	ah, I'm wrong, it's 20k for 2018 draft
   20:49:26	robe2_:	I'm going to followup with guido about moving 2017.foss4g.org back to osgeo so we can ssl it.
   20:49:49	robe2_:	we can use letsencrypt for everything. Hey it's good enough for postgresql.org, it's good enough for us :)
   20:49:58	strk:	of course it is
   20:50:22	robe2_:	so then of urgency would be the 2018 one. I think there current might just be static and they wanted one for registration
   20:51:03	robe2_:	strk and I did set letsencrypt to auto renew on the wordpress via cronjob I'll monitor but command worked fine running
   20:51:32	strk:	it should create a log file, cronjob may be frequent, but it'll only do something upon expiration (3 months?)
   20:51:46	robe2_:	strk yah we need Alex to up that. I'm thinking it might be a good idea to have 2 contracts running at same time (but make them a bit longer) so we have overlap
   20:51:48	strk:	so you will really only know after that time
   20:51:51	markusN:	I use letsencrypt for my stuff for long and it works perfectly. So let's try
   20:52:03	robe2_:	don't feel comfortable with having just martin
   20:52:06	strk:	it's already in use for git.osgeo.org
   20:52:10	strk:	and drone.osgeo.org
   20:52:29	robe2_:	and postgis.net and debbie.postgis.net and winnie.postgis.net :)
   20:52:48	robe2_:	but we don't have it as default on postgis.net (because of unsecure images we are currently linked to)
   20:53:43	robe2_:	okay I think that's it for meeting stuff - I'll try to itemize the easy knockoff ssls we can do and just do them if I can
   20:54:11	robe2_:	others like geoforall, foss4g2018, foss4g2017 may need registrar authority transfer
   20:54:38	robe2_:	anything else anyone wants to discuss or should we adjourn?
   20:54:52	cvvergara:	I have nothing to say :(
   20:55:11	strk:	maybe we should try another timing, of it's easier for Alex and Martin ?
   20:56:03	markusN:	could be... an hour later or two
   20:56:12	robe2_:	strk they are the ones that picked this time :)
   20:56:19	robe2_:	it was the most convenient for them
   20:56:37	robe2_:	but sure we can revisit the time
   20:57:02	robe2_:	okay meeting adjorned then
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