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Revision as of 20:52, 16 September 2023

Infrastructure of OSGeo System Administration Committee (SAC)

For emergency plans see: SAC:Admin and Troubleshooting


Servers at OSL

Open Source Labs - 4 physical machines containing x virtual machines.


Logging into Physical Machines

Currently we have osgeo6 and backup.osgeo.osuosl.org that are physical machines under LDAP control.

Note this does not apply to osgeo3, osgeo4, osgeo7, osgeo9 lxd hosts. Refer to those sections for instructions on logging in. If hanging, see OSL for how to open a ticket with OSUOSL's support.

This section currently only applies to osgeo6 and backup.

All SAC administrators have LDAP auth to the OSL Machines.

To ssh into a server using your LDAP account, you can do the following replacing your_osgeo_login with your OSGeo login and vmname with the vm name of the server at OSL.

 ssh your_osgeo_login@servername.osgeo.osuosl.org

When prompted for password, use your OSGeo Login password.


SAC:Primary Administrators also have ssh key access in case LDAP is down and that will also apply to the physical machines. Worst case scenario use the information on Open Source Labs to file a ticket (SAC members only). Direct connection to virtual machines is by appending it's vm alias to .osgeo.osuosl.org.

Logging into LXD Hosts

OSGeo3, OSGeo4, OSGeo7, OSGeo8, and OSGeo9 are all Ubuntu servers running LXD. LXD is a management system for LXC containers and QEMU VMS. LXD has a channel that covers its features.

To directly access the host, you go thru port 2222

  ssh tech_dev@server_name.osgeo.osuosl.org -p 2222

Only SAC:Primary Administrators have their ssh key installed under that account. In order to access via KVM of these in event servers do not come up on a reboot, you need to go thru OSU OSL OpenVPN. To get an OpenVPN account, you need to put in a support ticket to support@osuosl.org. In order to qualify for an OpenVPN account, you need to be an OSGeo SAC administrator. You will also need to install OpenVPN client) to use your OpenVPN account.

Each host on the private KVM side is named https://osgeo8.osuosl.oob -- where replace osgeo8 with the relevant host. The .oob is the private network, so doesn't work unless you are connected to via OpenVPN.

The browser interface is sometimes clunky, so you might want to use ipmitool installable on linux/unix or wsl using relevant package manager. KVM passwords are stored in SAC password-store.


A convenient block to add to your ~/.ssh/config to easily login to osgeo's LXD hosts follows:

   Host osgeo?
     User tech_dev
     HostName %h.osgeo.osuosl.org
     Port 2222

Then you would be able to log into those hosts with commands like:

   ssh osgeo7

Logging into LXD Containers and VMs

A convenient block to add to your ~/.ssh/config to easily login to osgeo's LXD hosted containers and vms is the following:

  # This stanza is only needed if you have an IdentityFile configured below.
  # The IdentityFile from a target host is not automatically applied to the hop host, so we need to make it explicit:
  Host hop.*.osgeo.org
    IdentityFile "path/to/your/private/key"
  
  Host osgeo*-*
    ProxyCommand ssh hop.$(sed -e "s/-.*//" <<< "%h").osgeo.org -W $(sed -e "s/^osgeo[^-*]-//;s/$/.lxd/" <<< "%h"):%p
    # this is only needed if you you use different private keys for different servers
    IdentityFile "path/to/your/private/key"

Then you'll be able to access a LXC Container or QEMU VM on machine `osgeo3` with:

  ssh yourusername@osgeo3-matrix

And one on machine `osgeo7` with:

  ssh yourusername@osgeo7-download

Note you still need to know where each LXC host is hosted... See successive sections to know what's on which machine.


Troubleshooting: In case of "Permission denied (publickey)." after an update to a modern openSSH version, it might well be that your ssh key (RSH key) is disabled in your client in favour of more modern cyphers.

Ugly workaround: add one line `PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes ...` in `.ssh/config`, to re-enable RSA keys for now (consider to generate a new key):

 vim .ssh/config
 ...
 Host *
    ...
    PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes +ssh-rsa

... but better read e.g. here!

osgeo 8

Server added April 2021. Intended to provide additional LXD capacity and backup Configuration Details

Services running on osgeo8

hop

hop.osgeo8.osgeo.org - jump host for accessing containers/vms on osgeo8

nginx

http, https Proxy for all containers on osgeo8 and also provides mirror proxy for download.osgeo.org

dronie-client

a ci bot for dronie.osgeo.org which is used for git.osgeo.org/gitea ci jobs

download8

Replica of download that is on osgeo7. Mirrors download and home folders from osgeo7. https://download-cache.osgeo.org

centtie-7-pgrouting

Centos 7 running PostgreSQL 15, PostGIS 3.3.2, gcc-4.8.5, cmake 3 Configured to be a github self-hosted runner for testing centos for pgrouting project

Details of Github Action runner setup

grass-wiki

Debian 10 (copy of wiki) home of https://grasswiki.osgeo.org upgraded to Bullseye debian 11.

grass

https://grass.osgeo.org upgraded to Bullseye debian 11.

GRASS GIS server

Current DNS name: grass.osgeo.org

Debian 11 Bullseye

Web: Apache + Hugo (generated through cronjob from https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website/), see https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-addons/tree/grass8/utils/cronjobs_osgeo_lxd

ssh: reachable via jumphost.

pgrouting-dev

For pgrouting development use to do things like pushing docker images on a scheduled basis. Perhaps later for demo sites.

meshcentral

https://remote.osgeo.org This is a remoting tool currently setup to test livecd vms via a web browser.

2 VMS currently set up on osgeo8 accessible from this. Currentl based on livecd b44 and b40 snapshots

woodie-server

Ubuntu 22.04 with docker. https://woodie.osgeo.org A CI server + agent running https://woodpecker-ci.org and authentication/repo for https://git.osgeo.org/gitea

woodpecker server and agent are running on this each in a docker container using a docker-compose yaml running under account woodie.

Setup details OSGeo8 Woodie setup still a work in progress

osgeo 9

Server added April 2021. Is an LXD host. Also Stores lxd images used by other lxd hosts. Configuration Details

Services running on osgeo9

hop

hop.osgeo9.osgeo.org. For LDAP users allows them to hop thru to get to other containers.

nginx

nginx (for web proxy of traffic of osgeo9 containers) additional mirror proxy for download.osgeo.org

adventure

https://adventure.osgeo.org runs https://github.com/thecodingmachine/workadventure software

dronie-client

a ci bot for dronie.osgeo.org which is used for git.osgeo.org/gitea ci jobs

limesurvey

Debian 10, PostgreSQL 13, PHP 8 with ldap/ssh. https://limesurvey.osgeo.org Setup detailed on limesurvey container


engelsystem

https://2023-engel.foss4g.org planned for use by foss4g 2023 for managing staff

pixelfed

WORK IN PROGRESS Pixelfed instance reachable on https://photo.osgeo.org to house community photos

peertube

Peertube instance reachable on https://video.osgeo.org

pretalx

Ubuntu 20.04 with OSGeo LDAP and Docker installed. pretalx software runs in Docker. https://talks.osgeo.org - for OSGeo Talk collection and voting See Pretalx

weblate

Container Name: weblate (for doc translation)

Houses: https://weblate.osgeo.org (for document translation to different languages) For further details refer to SAC:Weblate

wordpress

Houses: https://www.osgeo.org, https://2018.foss4g.org, https://2020.europe.foss4g.org websites Runs Debian 11 with OSGeo LDAP access

Setup details of wordpress container

wiki

(wiki.osgeo.org) - debian10 lxd container with ldap/ssh (MediaWiki 1.34, 10.3.22-MariaDB, PHP 7.3)

Note that this is a rebuild of wiki.osgeo.org that used to be on osgeo7 old-wiki container. Move 2020-05-22 Setup steps are at wiki container setup

osgeo 7

Server added June 2018. Intended to replace osgeo3 and old osgeo4 (before reformat). Configuration Details

Container setup of all the osgeo7 servers is located in https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/sac/osgeo7/wiki/_pages

Running LXD 3 snap based container management -- LXD version 3.17 as of 2019-09-15

Accessing osgeo7 containers via ssh

Only the download.osgeo.org is directly exposed ssh via port 22. To access the other containers, you can tunnel thru download.osgeo.org -- You need to be in the shell group to be able to access download and the other servers. If you are not already put in a SAC Ticket Request. You also need to have your public key registered. To do so edit your profile [1] (and put in your public key)

A convenient block to add to your own `.ssh/config` file follows:


Host osgeo7-*
  ProxyCommand ssh your_osgeo_id@hop.osgeo7.osgeo.org -W $(sed -e "s/^osgeo7-//;s/$/.lxd/" <<< "%h"):%p
  IdentityFile "path/to/your/private/key"

With the above in place, you can connect to any container using:

 ssh your_id@osgeo7-<container_name>

Troubleshooting: In case of "Permission denied (publickey)." after an update to a modern openSSH version, it might well be that your ssh key (RSH key) is disabled in your client in favour of more modern cyphers.

Ugly workaround: add one line `PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes ...` in `.ssh/config`, to re-enable RSA keys for now (consider to generate a new key):

 vim .ssh/config
 ...
 Host *
    ...
    PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes +ssh-rsa

... but better read e.g. here!


Services on osgeo7

Download

In order to be able to log in or sftp

  • You must be a member of the OSGeo shell group which can be granted from another person in shell group - Shell
  • Once you are in shell group, go to https://id.osgeo.org/ldap/edit and put in your public key.

You should then be able to log into download (and all other hop servers on the other hosts) with your private key.

You can put in a ticket to request such access.

nginx

Proxy that routes all http/https traffic for the other containers (can be accessed via osgeo7 host lxc or ubuntu@osgeo7-nginx if your key is installed on ubuntu user). The nginx container holds the letsencrypt https SSL certs for all the containers and handles the renewal of the letsencrypt certs using certbot renew cronjob. Prometheus server to collect all monitoring logs from OSGeo7 (only accessible by OSGeo3), these get queried via monitor.osgeo.org (running on osgeo3) via grafana server.

Secure (LDAP )

secure -- ldap.osgeo.org SAC:LDAP used for ldap service (a rebuild of old secure.osgeo.osuosl.org) now on Debian 11

tracsvn (trac, svn, git)

https://trac.osgeo.org, https://git.osgeo.org/gitea, https://svn.osggeo.org This used to be housed on osgeo3 in VM TracSVN VM, and was moved 2019-10-12 to osgeo7 as tracsvn container. It has since been upgraded to Debian 9 (Stretch with plans to upgrade more)

  • See TracSVN for full details, and some notes on services running here

See TracSVN for info about what it contains (spoiler: trac, svn, gitea)

old-wiki (stopped)

This used to be housed on osgeo3, and was moved 2019-09-14 to osgeo7 as old-wiki container. wiki.osgeo.org moved back to osgeo3 on 2020-05-22 and in wiki container. The wiki container is a complete rebuild with files and database restored and upgraded. Refer to the osgeo3 section for more details.

old wiki container -- used for wiki service (it is an lxd2pc created image of wiki.osgeo.osuosl.org VM that was on osgeo3)

See OSGeo Wiki

nextcloud-ubuntu

https://nextcloud.osgeo.org Running in container nextcloud-ubuntu on osgeo7, Ubuntu 20.04 LXD/nginx/postgresql 12 container for document sharing similar to dropbox/google drive - nextcloud-ubuntu.lxd - https://nextcloud.osgeo.org Nextcloud Setup

Uses collabora (for document/view/editing) home of https://nextcloud.osgeo.org This server does not use ssh osgeo-ldap as it was the first container built. However nextcloud.osgeo.org does authenticate with osgeo ldap.

TODO: add special page for this

collabora

https://collabora.osgeo.org Ubuntu 18.04 LXD container for LibreOffice/MS Office online document editor currently used exclusively by nextcloud.osgeo.org. Setup detailed in Nextcloud setup.

live

Home of live.osgeo.org (created 2021-10-05ish Running Ubuntu 20.04 with OSGeo LDAP SSH

dronie-server

old-projects

-- this is the old projects.osgeo.osuosl.org migrated from osgeo4 as an lxd container, so more or less the same as it was before, with the exception that all the websites are now proxied thru the nginx container. Websites on it are community-review.foss4g.org and spatialreference.org

To access you need to go thru download.osgeo.org -> old-projects


old-web

The old web.osgeo.osuosl.org (was on osgeo3)

  • mapguide.osgeo.org

ldap-web

Currently housing https://id.osgeo.org/ for LDAP management. Deployed via ansible

  • id.osgeo.org

old-webextra

This is a replica of webextra.osgeo.osuosl.org that was hosted on osgeo3

Started move on November 29th 2019 and completed December 8th, 2019

  • foss4g.org
  • europe.foss4g.org
  • video.foss4g.org
  • planet.osgeo.org
  • various old foss4g.org years
  • live.osgeo.org moved to dedicated container
  • journal.osgeo.org (not sure what this is for, should be retired?)

pycsw

Container Name: pycsw

mapserver

Container Name: mapserver

osgeo7 decommissioned containers

old-adhoc

SHUTOFF as of 2022-01-29

old-adhoc -- this is the old adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org migrated 2019-05-08 from osgeo4 as an lxd container. Used by osgeo-live for there test docs and by grass for earthquake, and mapserver for demo. Note that there is a new live (container that osgeo-live will more to), there is also a mapserver container (which mapserver have started to move their demo to)

To access via ssh you should go thru download.osgeo.org -> old-adhoc.lxd It is accessible via https://adhoc.osgeo.org and http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org


osgeo6

  • Mail
  • lists.osgeo.org

See Osgeo6 for full details

Backup (osgeo5)

  • Backup now runs on dedicated hardware
  • Provides Rsync backups of download.osgeo.org
  • Provides Bacula backups of various VMs.
  • See SAC:Backups for details.

osgeo4

osgeo4 is a real server managed by OSUOSL - can be access via ssh tech_dev@osgeo4.osgeo.osuosl.org -p 2222 (only people with their access keys installed can log in and doesn't allow password access) - password for tech_dev is in the secure container (on osgeo7) / access folder.

In August 2019 the server had new power supply put in and replacement disks. It was reformatted with Ubuntu 18.04.3 to serve as secondary LXD host to osgeo7 zfsutils-linux was installed so lxd can use zfs for storage.

sshing into osgeo4 containers

Note that all the containers are closed off from direct ssh access except for the hop.osgeo4.osgeo.org. To access the other containers, you need to hop through hop. hop container has port 22 open but requires ssh access so users who’ve been granted rights can hop thru it to other containers using hop.osgeo4.osgeo.org as name.

A convenient block to add to your own .ssh/config file follows where your_id could be your osgeo id or a local account on that container

Host osgeo4-*
  ProxyCommand ssh your_osgeo_id@hop.osgeo4.osgeo.org -W $(sed -e "s/^osgeo4-//;s/$/.lxd/" <<< "%h"):%p
  IdentityFile "path/to/your/private/key"
  User your_id

Then to access say the wordpress-dev container, you'd do the below

ssh osgeo4-wordpress-dev

osgeo4 baremetal features

It's makeup is as follows:

Item Settings
Disks 6 1.8 TB drives
Memory 48 GB
CPUs 8 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5540 @ 2.53GHz (8192kb cache)
lsblk -i
NAME           MAJ:MIN RM  SIZE RO TYPE  MOUNTPOINT
sda              8:0    0  1.8T  0 disk  
|-sda1           8:1    0  953M  0 part  
| `-md0          9:0    0  952M  0 raid1 /boot
`-sda2           8:2    0 46.6G  0 part  
  `-md1          9:1    0 46.5G  0 raid1 
	|-lvm-root 253:0    0 37.3G  0 lvm   /
	`-lvm-swap 253:1    0  7.5G  0 lvm   [SWAP]
sdb              8:16   0  1.8T  0 disk  
|-sdb1           8:17   0  953M  0 part  
| `-md0          9:0    0  952M  0 raid1 /boot
`-sdb2           8:18   0 46.6G  0 part  
  `-md1          9:1    0 46.5G  0 raid1 
	|-lvm-root 253:0    0 37.3G  0 lvm   /
	`-lvm-swap 253:1    0  7.5G  0 lvm   [SWAP]
sdc              8:32   0  1.8T  0 disk  
sdd              8:48   0  1.8T  0 disk  
sde              8:64   0  1.8T  0 disk  
sdf              8:80   0  1.8T  0 disk 
sdc,sdd,sde,sdf  form a zfs osgeo4_lxd partition (sdc,sdd) mirrors sde,sdf for total lxd capacity of 3.62 TB

Nightly backups of osgeo3, osgeo7, and osgeo4 containers are kept here and named <container>-backup and be kept in a stopped state.

Services running on osgeo4

hop

Container Name: hop - this is the only container with direct ssh access via ssh hop.osgeo4.osgeo.org. To get to other containers, you need to hop thru this one. Requires ssh key access

osgeo4-nginx

Container Name: osgeo4-nginx ->> all web traffick from other containers on osgeo4 get proxied thru here

old-web-staging

Container Name: old-web-staging - used primarily for experimenting with changes to id.osgeo.org (old-web on osgeo7) like testing out OS and software upgrade etc, changes to LDAP forms and registration, before applying to id.osgeo.org. - https://id.staging.osgeo.org

pretalx-staging

Container Name: pretalx-staging - used primarily for experimenting with changes to talks.osgeo.org (pretalx on osgeo3) like testing out Docker builds and software upgrade etc, before applying to talks.osgeo.org. - https://talks.staging.osgeo.org

wordpress-dev

Container Name: wordpress-dev - used primarily for osgeo.org main website development - https://staging.www.osgeo.org, https://dev.www.osgeo.org

wiki-dev

Container Name: wiki-dev - used primarily for experimenting with changes to wiki.osgeo.org like testing out OS and software upgrade etc before appying to wiki.osgeo.org. - https://dev.wiki.osgeo.org

wiki-staging

Container Name: wiki-staging - used primarily for upgrade changes to wiki.osgeo.org like testing out OS and software upgrade etc before applying to wiki.osgeo.org. - https://staging.wiki.osgeo.org. The construction of this container is managed by sac ansible-deployment.

tracsvn-dev

Container Name: tracsvn-dev - This is a 2019-09-05 lxd2pc image of tracsvn.osgeo.osuosl.org (now on osgeo7 as tracsvn) used primarily for experimenting like testing out OS, git and software upgrade etc before appying to production. -- https://dev.git.osgeo.org, https://dev.tracsvn.osgeo.org Has the following sites: https://dev.trac.osgeo.org, https://dev.git.osgeo.org/gitea, https://dev.svn.osgeo.org

dronie-client

Container Name: dronie-client - This is a debian 10 machine, with OSGeo LDAP authentication and a drone-agent docker running. To be used with https://dronie.osgeo.org

osgeo3

osgeo3 physical server refer to Configuration Details for hardware specs. It is used to run production, but moderately risky things. Refer to SAC:Old-osgeo3 for past history before osgeo3 was rebuilt. osgeo3 is a hosted by OSUOSL - can be accessed via ssh tech_dev@osgeo3.osgeo.osuosl.org -p 2222 (only people with their access keys installed can log in and doesn't allow password access) - password for tech_dev is in the secure container (on osgeo7) / access folder.

sshing into osgeo3 containers

Note that all the containers are closed off from direct ssh access except for the hop.osgeo3.osgeo.org. To access the other containers, you need to hop through hop.osgeo3.osgeo.org. hop container has port 22 open but requires ssh key access, you need to be added to shell group and have your ssh keys registered on your profile https://id.osgeo.org/ldap/edit). Users who’ve been granted rights can hop thru it to other containers using hop.osgeo3.osgeo.org as name. Other containers may or may not allow password access. It's up to the those who manage the internal containers.

A convenient block to add to your own .ssh/config file follows

# this is only needed if you you use different private keys for different servers
Host hop.osgeo3.osgeo.org
  IdentityFile "path/to/your/private/key"
Host osgeo3-*
  ProxyCommand ssh your_osgeo_id@hop.osgeo3.osgeo.org -W $(sed -e "s/^osgeo3-//;s/$/.lxd/" <<< "%h"):%p
  IdentityFile "path/to/your/private/key"

Then to access say the nexus container, you'd do the below where your_id could be your osgeo id or a local account on that container

ssh your_id@osgeo3-nexus

hop

This is the only container with direct ssh access via ssh hop.osgeo3.osgeo.org. To get to other containers, you need to hop thru this one. Requires ssh key access which you can register by editing your ldap profile.

osgeo3-nginx

nginx proxy all web-traffic via the (using IP: 140.211.15.6 web-osgeo3.osgeo.osuosl.org), the second ip is not in use, but may be used for a secondary nginx, to temporarily host osgeo7/osgeo8/osgeo9 containers in case of major hardware upgrades

demo-pygeoapi

Ubuntu 20.04 future home of https://demo.pygeoapi.io

dronie-client

This is a debian 10 lxd container running docker. Currently has just one running docker osgeo-drone-agent to serve as a client for dronie-server (dronie.osgeo.org running on osgeo7)

geo-docs

Debian 11 houses the following:

planned home of ? docs.geowebcache.org

matrix

Container Name: matrix - debian10 lxd container with ldap/ssh. Manages matrix bridges and allows users to access matrix using their OSGeo LDAP accounts.

See SAC:MatrixSynapse for full detail.

nexus (repo.osgeo.org, docker.osgeo.org)

See SAC:Repo this is a debian 10 lxd container running docker 19. It currently has one docker container running within it called nexus -- exposed as repo.osgeo.org on nginx.

Also exposed as project dockers for pushing images: postgis-docker.osgeo.org, geoserver-docker.osgeo.org, geos-docker.osgeo.org, sac-docker.osgeo.org

monitor

debian10 lxd container with ldap/ssh. https://monitor.osgeo.org (houses grafana dashboard (for all servers) and prometheus server for osgeo3 containers and pulls basic container metrics using node exporters pulled via prometheus servers. Requirs ldap to log into the web console.

Configuring servers for monitoring is detailed Git Prometheus Config


gallery

Picture gallery. See Gallery

WebExtra

    • Retired December 8th, 2019 -- and moved to osgeo7 as container old-webextra

Cloud Hosted Servers and other external under SAC Control

Future Hosting Plans for Windows / Mac Building

SAC Shared Building Services


Atlantic.net

  • host.postgis.net -p 2222 is an LXD Ubuntu 18.04 16GB RAM/ 6 vCPU, 350GB data, 250GB block storage
  • Currenlty running two lxd containers:
   debbie: debian 10 postgis.net, planet.postgis.net, debbie.postgis.net (jenkins build bot)  
   debbie-docker.host.postgis.net - runs docker and serves as a 1.0 agent for dronie.osgeo.org

QGIS off OSGeo

Services on separated machines rented and managed by the QGIS project at hetzner

  • website including documentation http://www.qgis.org
  • website building, documentation building, debian/ubuntu nightlies, plugins.qgis.org
  • issues.qgis.org: redmine

Historical servers (not more in use)

- Telascience Blades (Historical)

web18a.osgeo.osuosl.org

NO LONGER USED - turned off 2019-09-03 Production services www.osgeo.org, 2018.foss4g.org moved to wordpress container on osgeo7 Staging services (staging.www.osgeo.org, dev.www.osgeo.org move to wordpress-dev container on osgeo4 Grass wordpress is disabled as grass decided to go with another solution, so have grass container on osgeo7 (Cloud hosted server on OSUOSL hardware (not ours) )

  • Debian 9.3 4GB server, host name: web18a.osgeo.osuosl.org require ssh key to log in.
  • Hosts wordpress sites staging.www.osgeo.org,www.osgeo.org, staging.grass.osgeo.org, foss4g2018.osgeo.org
  • Setup details on Web18a setup


OSGeo funtoo

For lxd experimentation it's an lxd container running other lxd containers and provided by funtoo.org.

OSGeo is paying funtoo via treasurer at osgeo.org.


  • funtoo LXDs currently running:
    • LimeSurvey -this may be in future migrated to osgeo7 or osgeo3

Migrated to osgeo3 2020-11-28